2007 Retreat with John Sherman - Meeting # 5
Good evening, welcome back. I am happy to be here with you. Does anybody have anything to say?
Thank you. I wanted to let you know that in all of my years of seeking, I have never resonated with self-inquiry. I have been aware of it, but I have never really resonated with it, until I met you in Arizona. It was miraculous how I met you. I won't go into it, but, in any event, you inspired me to embark on the process of self-inquiry, and as a result of that process, there have been two seemingly distinctive experiences, and I am curious about the distinction between the two. The first experience is one of hereness and awareness of this body, and what is in the environment, and it is somewhat localized. But then, sometimes, subsequent to that, there is a collapsing back into another level, I guess you could say, where it feels like — and it only feels like that in retrospect, because nothing is going on during it itself; it's when the me comes back, and I review it — it is a crystal-clear, pure consciousness, with no frame of reference whatsoever, and very natural and really simple. And so I guess what I am wondering is, what are the mechanics, why does that transition happen? What is that transition? Why are there these two different experiences?
This crystal-clear consciousness without a frame of reference, is this new?
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